Author |
Topic |
randall
"I like to watch."
|
|
BaftaBaby "Always entranced by cinema."
|
Posted - 01/10/2013 : 15:00:17
|
Oscars 2013: Full list of nominees
Best film
Amour Argo Beasts Of The Southern Wild Django Unchained Les Miserables Lincoln Life Of Pi Silver Linings Playbook Zero Dark Thirty
Best actress
Jessica Chastain - Zero Dark Thirty Jennifer Lawrence - Silver Linings Playbook Emmanuelle Riva - Amour Quvenzhane Wallis - Beasts of the Southern Wild Naomi Watts - The Impossible
Best actor
Daniel Day Lewis - Lincoln Bradley Cooper - Silver Linings Playbook Hugh Jackman - Les Miserables Joaquin Phoenix - The Master Denzel Washington - Flight
Best director
Michael Haneke - Amour Ang Lee - Life of Pi David O Russell - Silver Linings Playbook Steven Spielberg - Lincoln Benh Zeitlin - Beasts of the Southern Wild
Best supporting actor
Alan Arkin - Argo Robert De Niro - Silver Linings Playbook Tommy Lee Jones - Lincoln Christoph Waltz - Django Unchained Philip Seymour Hoffman - The Master
Best supporting actress
Amy Adams - The Master Sally Field - Lincoln Anne Hathaway - Les Miserables Helen Hunt - The Sessions Jacki Weaver - Silver Linings Playbook
Best foreign film
Amour No War witch A Royal Affair Kon-Tiki
Best animated film
Brave Frankenweenie Paranorman Pirates! Band of Misfits (UK title: Pirates! In an Adventure with Scientists) Wreck-it Ralph
Best documentary film
5 Broken Cameras The Gatekeepers How To Survive A Plague The Invisible War Searching For Sugarman
Music (original song)
Before My Time (Chasing Ice) - Music and Lyric by J. Ralph Everybody Needs A Best Friend (Ted) - Music by Walter Murphy, Lyric by Seth MacFarlane Pi's lullaby (Life Of Pi) - Music by Mychael Danna, Lyric by Bombay Jayashri Skyfall (Skyfall) - Music and Lyric by Adele Adkins and Paul Epworth Suddenly (Les Miserables) - Music by Claude-Michel Schonberg, Lyric by Herbert Kretzmer and Alain Boublil
Music (original score)
Anna Karenina - Dario Marianelli Argo - Alexandre Desplat Life Of Pi - Mychael Danna Lincoln - John Williams Skyfall - Thomas Newman
Adapted screenplay
Argo - Chris Terrio Beasts Of The Southern Wild - Lucy Alibar and Benh Zeitlin Life Of Pi - David Magee Lincoln - Tony Kushner Silver Linings Playbook - David O Russell
Original screenplay
Amour - Michael Haneke Django Unchained - Quentin Tarantino Flight - John Gatins Moonrise Kingdom - Wes Anderson and Roman Coppola Zero Dark Thirty - Mark Boal
Cinematography
Anna Karenina - Seamus McGarvey Django Unchained - Robert Richardson Life of Pi - Claudio Miranda Lincoln - Janusz Kaminski Skyfall - Roger Deakins
Costume Design
Anna Karenina - Jacqueline Durran Les Miserables - Paco Delgado Lincoln - Joanna Johnston Mirror Mirror - Eiko Ishioka Snow White and the Huntsman - Colleen Atwood
Best documentary short subject
Inocente Kings Point Mondays at Racine Open Heart Redemption
Film editing
Argo - William Goldenberg Life of Pi - Tim Squyres Lincoln - Michael Kahn Silver Linings Playbook - Jay Cassidy and Crispin Struthers Zero Dark Thirty - Dylan Tichenor and William Goldenberg
Make-up and Hairstyling
Hitchcock - Howard Berger, Peter Montagna and Martin Samuel The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - Peter Swords King, Rick Findlater and Tami Lane Les Miserables - Lisa Westcott and Julie Dartnell
Production Design
Anna Karenina - Sarah Greenwood and Katie Spencer The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - Dan Hennah, Ra Vincent and Simon Bright Les Miserables - Eve Stewart and Anna Lynch-Robinson Life Of Pi - David Gropman and Anna Pinnock Lincoln - Rick Carter and Jim Erickson
Short film (animated)
Adam and the Dog Fresh Guacamole Head Over Heels Maggie Simpson in The Longest Daycare Paperman
Short film (live action)
Asad Buzkashi Boys Curfew Death of a Shadow (Dood Van Een Schaduw) Henry
Sound editing
Argo - Erik Aadahl and Ethan van der Ryn Django Unchained - Wylie Stateman Life Of Pi - Eugene Gearty and Philip Stockton Skyfall - Per Hallberg and Karen Baker Landers Zero Dark Thirty - Paul NJ Ottosson
Sound mixing
Argo - John Reitz, Gregg Rudloff and Jose Antonio Garcia Les Miserables - Andy Nelson, Mark Paterson and Simon Hayes Life Of Pi - Ron Bartlett, DM Hemphill and Drew Kunin Lincoln - Andy Nelson, Gary Rydstrom and Ronald Judkins Skyfall - Scott Millan, Greg P Russell and Stuart Wilson
Visual effects
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - Joe Letteri, Eric Saindon, David Clayton and R Christopher White Life Of Pi - Bill Westenhofer, Guillaume Rocheron, Erik-Jan De Boer and Donald R Elliott Marvel's The Avengers (UK title: Marvel's Avengers Assemble) - Janek Sirrs, Jeff White, Guy Williams and Dan Sudick Prometheus - Richard Stammers, Trevor Wood, Charley Henley and Martin Hill Snow White and the Huntsman - Cedric Nicolas-Troyan, Philip Brennan, Neil Corbould and Michael Dawson
|
|
|
randall "I like to watch."
|
Posted - 01/10/2013 : 15:03:30
|
Biggest shock: Directing noms. At least three others deserved it. |
|
|
TitanPa "Here four more"
|
Posted - 01/10/2013 : 17:01:55
|
Since Best Picture went to ten, Best Director should have as well. Im surprised Ben Affleck was snubbed. |
|
|
GHcool "Forever a curious character."
|
Posted - 01/10/2013 : 18:18:27
|
I haven't seen many of the nominated movies, so here are the categories I have an informed opinion about:
Best Supporting Actor Should Win: Tommy Lee Jones for Lincoln Shouldn't Win: Alan Arkin for Argo Who Was Snubbed: Jim Broadbent for Cloud Atlas
Best Original Screenplay Should Win: Flight Shouldn't Win: Moonrise Kingdom Who Was Snubbed: ParaNorman
Best Film Editing Should Win: Argo Shouldn't Win: Lincoln Who Was Snubbed: Cloud Atlas
Best Visual Effects Should Win: Hobbit Shouldn't Win: Snow White and the Huntsman Who Was Snubbed: Cloud Atlas
Best Score Should Win: Anna Karenina Shouldn't Win: Argo Who Was Snubbed: Frankenweenie
Best Sound Mixing Should Win: Lincoln Shouldn't Win: Argo Who Was Snubbed: Hobbit
I am a little surprised that Cloud Atlas did not even receive one nomination. Surely it was one of the most ambitious films of the year and even though it didn't succeed as well as it might have, it deserves some recognition. Lincoln did as well as I had hoped, though that was no surprise. Anna Karenina and The Hobbit were two other ambitious, technically accomplished films that received the right nominations, though it might have been nice to see more for each. The biggest surprise for me was Snow White and the Huntsman's two nominations. |
|
|
randall "I like to watch."
|
Posted - 01/10/2013 : 21:16:54
|
quote: Originally posted by TitanPA
Since Best Picture went to ten, Best Director should have as well. Im surprised Ben Affleck was snubbed.
Of course, there were many pics nommed without their directors back when it was five and five. And AMPAS has always been infamous for lifetime snubbing of celebrated directors like Kubrick and Hitchcock -- and, until very recently, Scorsese. Ben Affleck's agent undoubtedly had to remind him thusly upon this very day.
I'm surprised about Affleck as well, also Bigelow and Hooper [though there's a backlash beginning against LES MIZ -- I believe as voting proceeds, the only lock to survive will be Anne Hathaway]. But especially Q, who got nommed for picture and screenplay, and riddle me this: how many currently working directors have placed their personal stamp so clearly on their flicks that you can guess the dir without a title card? Q is first on that list, which also MAYBE includes Scorsese, Spielberg, possibly Woody Allen, and weird outliers like David Lynch. If you like DJANGO, you liked the direction, AMPASers! They're not allergic: PULP FICTION won a screenwriting Oscar, but then, that was the only one which went to CITIZEN KANE as well.
I should note that the largest bloc of Academy voters by far is actors. [I don't know how BAFTA skews. Do you, Baffy?] |
Edited by - randall on 01/11/2013 00:17:53 |
|
|
BaftaBaby "Always entranced by cinema."
|
Posted - 01/11/2013 : 00:25:40
|
quote: Originally posted by randall
I should note that the largest bloc of Academy voters by far is actors. [I don't know how BAFTA skews. Do you, Baffy?]
BAFTA has never invited many actors to its elite industry ranks. Traditionally it's been an Academy of behind-the-sceners, the craft sector. Only relatively recently [the past 2 or 3 decades]has there been an influx of publicity people, front office admin, and bottom-liners.
Actors still are very under-represented. But then, there's always been a sad and widespread misunderstanding about what it is that actors actually do. And - with the emergence of rabid celebrity culture - what their qualifications might be.
Personally, I was only invited to join for my work in media journalism, not as an actress.
This ain't the place, but I have a lot of misgivings about the evolution of major film award ceremonies and what leads up to them. When all this year's season has become a memory - and, if you like, I'll share them with you.
But thanks for asking!
|
|
|
Joe Blevins "Don't I look handsome?"
|
Posted - 01/11/2013 : 00:37:57
|
I'll see most of these movies when the Best Picture Showcase rolls around, but I have to say the biggest -- and only -- surprise of the day for me was Amour, which got nominations in multiple high-profile categories.
I'm amazed that Michael Haneke has made a film which can be openly embraced by the notoriously timid and conservative Academy. Is the new film a radical change in style for him? |
|
|
randall "I like to watch."
|
Posted - 01/11/2013 : 01:05:23
|
quote: Originally posted by BaftaBabe
quote: Originally posted by randall
I should note that the largest bloc of Academy voters by far is actors. [I don't know how BAFTA skews. Do you, Baffy?]
BAFTA has never invited many actors to its elite industry ranks. Traditionally it's been an Academy of behind-the-sceners, the craft sector. Only relatively recently [the past 2 or 3 decades]has there been an influx of publicity people, front office admin, and bottom-liners.
Actors still are very under-represented. But then, there's always been a sad and widespread misunderstanding about what it is that actors actually do. And - with the emergence of rabid celebrity culture - what their qualifications might be.
Personally, I was only invited to join for my work in media journalism, not as an actress.
This ain't the place, but I have a lot of misgivings about the evolution of major film award ceremonies and what leads up to them. When all this year's season has become a memory - and, if you like, I'll share them with you.
But thanks for asking!
Can't tell from your post whether you think either more actors or more below-the-line [and off-the-line, like elite journalists such as yourself] peeps are more representative voters. I'd love to hear those misgivings to get it straight in my own mind after the whirl of awards season has passed. AMPAS is also heavily weighted below the line; the actors are only the single most prevalent voting bloc. I repeat: are you aware of similar stats re BAFTA? |
|
|
BaftaBaby "Always entranced by cinema."
|
Posted - 01/11/2013 : 01:23:27
|
quote: Originally posted by randall
quote: Originally posted by BaftaBabe
quote: Originally posted by randall
I should note that the largest bloc of Academy voters by far is actors. [I don't know how BAFTA skews. Do you, Baffy?]
BAFTA has never invited many actors to its elite industry ranks. Traditionally it's been an Academy of behind-the-sceners, the craft sector. Only relatively recently [the past 2 or 3 decades]has there been an influx of publicity people, front office admin, and bottom-liners.
Actors still are very under-represented. But then, there's always been a sad and widespread misunderstanding about what it is that actors actually do. And - with the emergence of rabid celebrity culture - what their qualifications might be.
Personally, I was only invited to join for my work in media journalism, not as an actress.
This ain't the place, but I have a lot of misgivings about the evolution of major film award ceremonies and what leads up to them. When all this year's season has become a memory - and, if you like, I'll share them with you.
But thanks for asking!
Can't tell from your post whether you think either more actors or more below-the-line [and off-the-line, like elite journalists such as yourself] peeps are more representative voters. I'd love to hear those misgivings to get it straight in my own mind after the whirl of awards season has passed. AMPAS is also heavily weighted below the line; the actors are only the single most prevalent voting bloc. I repeat: are you aware of similar stats re BAFTA?
Not sure those figures are broken down by blocs - I don't believe there are voting blocs as such - unless I'm not understanding what you mean by that.
This BAFTA page explains about as much as I know about demographics. Don't have time right now to detail exact voting process -- in any case it's changed this year.
Sorry, bedtime beckons ...
|
|
|
demonic "Cinemaniac"
|
Posted - 01/11/2013 : 06:22:36
|
quote: Originally posted by Joe Blevins I'm amazed that Michael Haneke has made a film which can be openly embraced by the notoriously timid and conservative Academy. Is the new film a radical change in style for him?
I'm pretty astonished by this too - it's a deserving nomination, of course, but I can't quite believe the Academy has put it on the same ticket as Silver Linings Playbook etc. It's a slightly different film for Haneke, less concerned with the threat of violence and his standard cool detachment, it's a true character study but no more comfortable a watch than Hidden or The White Ribbon because of the uncomfortable subject matter, presented unflichingly as he does so well. It's a big step for the Academy, for sure. It's a grown-up, important film amongst the many standard Hollywood glossies.
This inclusion raises a big point for me. The change to 10 nominees bugged the hell out of me when they first tried it a couple of years ago, and it's still annoying me now. This year they couldn't even think of 10 worthy films, it's only 9, and Amour is duplicated on the Foreign Language Oscar, which seems a terrible waste given it will clearly win that latter category (and if it doesn't that suggests that whatever does should have been on the Best Picture ticket instead). If making the list 10 was all about giving twice as many deserving films the extra boost why not do exactly that??
Another issue this raises is the suggestion that Amour is special enough to leap across from Foreign Language to Best Picture. Can anyone tell me when this has happened before? To my mind it makes the Foreign category something of a joke, as if every film nominated for Best Picture is automatically better than the films nominated each year for Foreign Language (obviously not the case). I think these categories should be separate and remain separate, and the Best Picture nominees should go back to five. |
Edited by - demonic on 01/11/2013 16:48:33 |
|
|
randall "I like to watch."
|
Posted - 01/11/2013 : 06:28:24
|
quote: Originally posted by BaftaBabe
quote: Originally posted by randall
quote: Originally posted by BaftaBabe
quote: Originally posted by randall
I should note that the largest bloc of Academy voters by far is actors. [I don't know how BAFTA skews. Do you, Baffy?]
BAFTA has never invited many actors to its elite industry ranks. Traditionally it's been an Academy of behind-the-sceners, the craft sector. Only relatively recently [the past 2 or 3 decades]has there been an influx of publicity people, front office admin, and bottom-liners.
Actors still are very under-represented. But then, there's always been a sad and widespread misunderstanding about what it is that actors actually do. And - with the emergence of rabid celebrity culture - what their qualifications might be.
Personally, I was only invited to join for my work in media journalism, not as an actress.
This ain't the place, but I have a lot of misgivings about the evolution of major film award ceremonies and what leads up to them. When all this year's season has become a memory - and, if you like, I'll share them with you.
But thanks for asking!
Can't tell from your post whether you think either more actors or more below-the-line [and off-the-line, like elite journalists such as yourself] peeps are more representative voters. I'd love to hear those misgivings to get it straight in my own mind after the whirl of awards season has passed. AMPAS is also heavily weighted below the line; the actors are only the single most prevalent voting bloc. I repeat: are you aware of similar stats re BAFTA?
Not sure those figures are broken down by blocs - I don't believe there are voting blocs as such - unless I'm not understanding what you mean by that.
This BAFTA page explains about as much as I know about demographics. Don't have time right now to detail exact voting process -- in any case it's changed this year.
Sorry, bedtime beckons ...
Sorry, I should have used the term "branch" rather than "bloc." AMPAS also has about 6,000 members, divided into 15 "branches," the most populous of which is the Actors Branch.
http://www.oscars.org/academy/history-organization/branches.html
Don't bother to "detail exact voting process" on my account -- it's not germane. |
Edited by - randall on 01/11/2013 06:31:33 |
|
|
BaftaBaby "Always entranced by cinema."
|
Posted - 01/11/2013 : 10:11:42
|
quote: Originally posted by randall
Sorry, I should have used the term "branch" rather than "bloc." AMPAS also has about 6,000 members, divided into 15 "branches," the most populous of which is the Actors Branch.
http://www.oscars.org/academy/history-organization/branches.html
Don't bother to "detail exact voting process" on my account -- it's not germane.
Ah - sorry for not twigging! In any case - there IS NO actors chapter/branch/bloc whatever. Which is one of the reasons I think the whole process needs re-visiting. At some later date!!!!
|
|
|
randall "I like to watch."
|
Posted - 01/11/2013 : 12:10:11
|
The reason it's significant in AMPAS's case is that nominations in most categories are done by the various branches: actors nominate the actors, directors nominate the directors, etc. [Everybody noms Best Picture and votes for the final awards in all categories.]
The LA Times recently did a survey, which has been poo-poohed by some, showing that AMPAS is overwhelmingly white and old [once you're invited in, the membership is for life; some voting members haven't worked in decades], which helps account for its stodgy reputation as cited by Joe, and may be why older helmers don't cotton to, say, QT [I felt his omission as dir was the most egregious blunder] as much as the contemporary audience does.
That said, the only Oscar I really care about this year is Doc. SUGAR MAN must win, even though its sweet, altruistic subject might say, "it's an honor just to be nominated." |
|
|
randall "I like to watch."
|
Posted - 01/11/2013 : 20:06:16
|
Um, Baffy, I just went back and read the BAFTA noms which you posted. So, my darling, what are "Chapter members"? |
|
|
w22dheartlivie "Kitty Lover"
|
Posted - 01/11/2013 : 21:06:05
|
Well, I've been quite vocal on my thoughts on the huge snub dealt the inimitable John Hawkes for The Sessions, which left me aghast at the embrace of awards hater Joaquin Phoenix, who is apparently going for the Marlon Brando bloc of voters, or perhaps he's counting on the Scientology bloc? I have my favorites, 'tis true, and from that, I can't help but root now for Daniel Day-Lewis, who actually tugged at my Abraham Lincoln-loving heartstrings and made me cry at the trailer shown on oscar.go.com. Although I know she's not the favorite, I'll root for Naomi Watts for The Impossible and back the favorite Anne Hathaway. My favorites really seem to circulate around those who made the biggest physical sacrifices, I think. Alas, I still have a month or so to catch what I've not yet seen. |
|
|
Topic |
|
|
|