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Wheelz 
"FWFR%u2019ing like it%u2019s 1999"
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 Posted - 07/22/2010 : 18:01:33
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In the list of rewiews "for journalists" there's one for It's a Wonderful Life: "Potter defeated my magic."
I assume that's supposed to be RockGolf's "Potter defeated by magic."
I found no other errors that haven't already been pointed out, and for what it's worth, I think the site looks great! |
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lemmycaution 
"Long mired in film"
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Posted - 07/22/2010 : 19:05:58
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| Spreading the (Four) Word. Great! |
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Yukon 
"Co-editor of FWFR book"
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Posted - 07/22/2010 : 19:35:41
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Originally posted by Wheelz
In the list of rewiews "for journalists" there's one for It's a Wonderful Life: "Potter defeated my magic."
I assume that's supposed to be RockGolf's "Potter defeated by magic."
I found no other errors that haven't already been pointed out, and for what it's worth, I think the site looks great!
Thanks Wheelz! |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 07/24/2010 : 04:26:45
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Originally posted by benj clews
Much as I'd love to have me in skates or playing the banjo, etc... I just didn't think it was relevant for an article about FWFR the book.
I think for a fun book it's definitely fine, especially as it's mentioned in the text. |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 07/24/2010 : 04:35:55
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Originally posted by benj clews
Not sure how a pop-up constitutes as 'clunky'- this is highly common practice around the web these days. Also, the first video fit fine when I tried- what screen resolution are you running at?
Pop-ups are usually there for a shorter time, so it doesn't matter that they come in front of the text. They also don't usually disappear altogether if one clicks elsewhere on the main screen. (At the worst they go behind.) I haven't seen any site where video is in a pop-up like that. People are used to things like YouTube -- they will expect to be able to look at the list of other videos while one is playing.
I can't answer questions like that, I'm afraid, but I haven't changed them and images appear in a 1:1 ratio (not like my dad's wide screen which he has set to a normal screen's resolution -- it drives me crazy!) and I definitely am not imagining it. Scroll bars appear at the side and bottom so that you can move to the unseen edges. I'll e-mail you a screen shot: I've checked and part of the picture is in the missing bits, not just background or something. |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 07/24/2010 : 04:39:48
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quote:
Originally posted by Wheelz
In the list of rewiews "for journalists" there's one for It's a Wonderful Life: "Potter defeated my magic."
I assume that's supposed to be RockGolf's "Potter defeated by magic."
 That teaches me for not bothering to read through them all properly. |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 07/24/2010 : 05:11:50
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FOR JOURNALISTS
It should be The 40 Year Old Virgin, not The 40-year-Old Virgin.
AVP: Alien vs. Predator is correct and bizarrely reflects what appears on the site -- Benj's normal style is to capitalise all words, even ones which are not usually capitalised in titles, and the site does this automatically when one adds a film so it's strange that this is a counter-example.
Talking of which, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Dr. Strangelove or: How I learned To Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, It�s a Wonderful Life, Kramer vs. Kramer (cf. above), Lawrence of Arabia, The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc, A Nightmare on Elm Street, One Flew Over the Cuckoo�s Nest, The Passion of the Christ, The Real Story of Humpty Dumpty, Sarah T.- Portrait of a Teenage Alcoholic, Star Trek 3: The Search for Spock and The Sound of Music are correct but do not match the forms on the site.
It should be "Carrey's thought-revoking film."
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone has the same capitalisation issue as the others and it's really a shame that you've gone with the American title since if they come to this site they're going to have to deal with the proper title anyway. I haven't checked whether the other films have American titles that differ.
N.B. "Nut screws washer, bolts" is older and better than the one chosen. |
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benj clews
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Posted - 07/24/2010 : 10:19:06
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Originally posted by Salopian
Pop-ups are usually there for a shorter time, so it doesn't matter that they come in front of the text. They also don't usually disappear altogether if one clicks elsewhere on the main screen. (At the worst they go behind.) I haven't seen any site where video is in a pop-up like that. People are used to things like YouTube -- they will expect to be able to look at the list of other videos while one is playing.
Frankly, I find a pop-up that can end up getting lost behind the current window much messier than one loaded in-page like this. There's nothing worse than some window somewhere playing audio and you having to tab through all your windows to find out where it is to stop it.
On a technical note, pop-ups as you describe are typically blocked by pop-up blockers these days, requiring extra interaction from the user (which they might not want to risk- a lot of users assume such pop-ups are spam (or worse)) in order to play the video.
If you haven't seen this before I can only assume you simply don't stray off the most mainstream websites very often- this is used all over the web to load extra content be it text, pictures, video, maps... As further testament to this, this isn't something I just invented, I'm reusing a standard code library used by many other current web developers.
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I can't answer questions like that, I'm afraid, but I haven't changed them and images appear in a 1:1 ratio (not like my dad's wide screen which he has set to a normal screen's resolution -- it drives me crazy!) and I definitely am not imagining it. Scroll bars appear at the side and bottom so that you can move to the unseen edges. I'll e-mail you a screen shot: I've checked and part of the picture is in the missing bits, not just background or something.
Cheers for the extra detail- I'm looking into this now. |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 07/24/2010 : 19:44:03
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Originally posted by benj clews
Frankly, I find a pop-up that can end up getting lost behind the current window much messier than one loaded in-page like this. There's nothing worse than some window somewhere playing audio and you having to tab through all your windows to find out where it is to stop it.
There is something worse -- the whole thing disappearing and you having to start again just because you've idly clicked elsewhere on the screen! 
The ideal would be one fixed frame with all the different film options on the right-hand side. (The text could be much smaller than it is now.) One film should continue playing until another film or tab is clicked or the website is closed. If one just touches the background nothing should happen. I've just checked again, with the second film this time (although I'm sure the first and others are the same), and the full-screen button was hidden until I scrolled down. (I didn't trying maximising the picture before.) That is obviously a big nuisance.
Or... wouldn't the best thing just be for the page to be a list of links that open normal YouTube (&c.) windows? It's always a bit frustrating watching a YouTube video on another site and then not being able to rate/comment/read comments/save it as a favourite &c. |
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benj clews
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Posted - 07/24/2010 : 20:14:53
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by benj clews
Frankly, I find a pop-up that can end up getting lost behind the current window much messier than one loaded in-page like this. There's nothing worse than some window somewhere playing audio and you having to tab through all your windows to find out where it is to stop it.
There is something worse -- the whole thing disappearing and you having to start again just because you've idly clicked elsewhere on the screen!
Why would you be idly click somewhere else if you want to watch the video? I'd think that if you're looking at what else is on the page you're not interested in what's playing. Regardless, most of those videos are 30 seconds long- it's hardly a great hassle to watch what you've already seen... and this is assuming you don't think to use the slider to get back to where you were.
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The ideal would be one fixed frame with all the different film options on the right-hand side. (The text could be much smaller than it is now.) One film should continue playing until another film or tab is clicked or the website is closed. If one just touches the background nothing should happen. I've just checked again, with the second film this time (although I'm sure the first and others are the same), and the full-screen button was hidden until I scrolled down. (I didn't trying maximising the picture before.) That is obviously a big nuisance.
You know, I think the main problem here is just that some people can't see the controls on a smaller screen size. Once I get that fixed I don't think half this stuff will even be an issue.
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Or... wouldn't the best thing just be for the page to be a list of links that open normal YouTube (&c.) windows? It's always a bit frustrating watching a YouTube video on another site and then not being able to rate/comment/read comments/save it as a favourite &c.
Well, if it were still 1996 and I hadn't made any websites before I might consider that the best approach. However, the internet has moved on somewhat since then- it's all about mashups and syndicated content these days. Why would you want to send the user off to another site entirely (albeit in a whole new window) when you can provide the same content in-page without taking them out of the experience of your own site?
Regardless, if someone really wants to view the content on YouTube they just click the video itself. If YouTube, with all it's user testing, thinks this is clear enough for your typical internet user then I'm not questioning that. |
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TitanPa
"Here four more"
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Posted - 07/24/2010 : 20:21:59
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 07/24/2010 : 20:38:38
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Originally posted by benj clews
Why would you be idly click somewhere else if you want to watch the video?
Just accidentally as much as anything else. You need to remember that plenty of users will be much less experienced on the Internet than you, especially those who visit as a result of buying a book. Yes, I realise that plenty of them will also be fine, but the point is making it user-friendly for everybody.
I may as well ask "Why would you make punctuation mistakes?" Well, you just do. There is no point pretending that people will automatically perfectly understand what to do and not do. |
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benj clews
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Posted - 07/24/2010 : 21:03:49
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Originally posted by Salopian
I may as well ask "Why would you make punctuation mistakes?" Well, you just do. There is no point pretending that people will automatically perfectly understand what to do and not do.
Yep, you and me both make such mistakes. But I like to think we all realise how something works/ should be done after seeing the error of our ways. |
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 07/24/2010 : 22:31:02
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benj darling, the meter's running ...
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benj clews
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Posted - 07/24/2010 : 22:37:27
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
benj darling, the meter's running ...
I'm not that fussed- I see the error but just don't see the point in correcting it so late after the event. Other stuff to do and all that |
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