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Whippersnapper.
"A fourword thinking guy."

Posted - 03/19/2009 : 15:24:04

When entering a new film, if the film is already on the site it would be good if you were taken to that film's page.

I've tried to enter a French film using an English title, only to find that it's already on the site, presumably under its French title which I don't know, so I can't find the film. That's why it would be very useful to take me to that film.

Thanks.

Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"

Posted - 03/19/2009 : 15:27:27

Except in exceptional circumstances, it will be an alternative title as listed on the I.M.D.B.

You could also look up any actor from the film and see it listed under them.

I don't really understand what you mean about entering it under an English title -- surely when one adds a film one does not specify any title?

benj clews
"...."

Posted - 03/21/2009 : 01:30:59

Well, I've made a quick change so that if you add a film via an IMDB code with no review you'll be taken to that film's page.

Still, I second Salopian's question- if you're adding a film by it's title alone, it can't be cross-ref'ed automatically against the films already in the database and so there's no way to take you to that film's page instantly. If you want this, the best option is always to paste in the imdb url in the Film name/ IMDB URL box and you'll get the quick jump described in my first paragraph.

Whippersnapper.
"A fourword thinking guy."

Posted - 03/21/2009 : 01:58:21

I tried to paste in the IMDB url, which gave an English title only for a French film. The English name was not already in the fwfr database but it would not enter the new film. An attempt to get a French title by looking up the names of the people involved didnt help as they were listed under the English name. I've no idea how to find the French title, but I assumed, maybe wrongly, that its in the fwfr database under that title. (I tried it three times to make sure as I thought it was a bit odd.)

Anyhow, the main, and simple point, which I have probably obfuscated horribly, is that when entering a film as new, by a IMDB url, which is already in the database, it would be friendlier to take the user to the existing film page instead of taking them back to their home page without being told the film is already on the database.

I also agree with your newly implimented idea to take the user to the film page when they successfully enter a new film, as it shows them the page has been created and, most of the time, the user will want to write a review of the film. However, some bulk film enterers may find it a bit of a nuisance.

I suppose the ideal solution would be an option in the "my profile" section so people can make their own default.

BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 03/21/2009 : 08:50:29

On a related topic, I wish there were a note in the FAQs or somewhere to tell noobs that they shouldn't search a film that starts with The or A using those words at the beginning of the title. On imdb it accepts both. Fwfr only accepts the first title word AFTER The or A.

I spent some frustrating hours when I first joined thinking some really well-known films weren't on the database here

Also, further on Whipper's point - If a foreign language film has any diacritical marks and you put them into the search, fwfr doen't seem to recognize them. EVEN IF the film IS already in the database. But if you don't put them in - it doesn't find them either!

This nice website tells how to form diacriticals from a keyboard.

Not a priority, but still ...

Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"

Posted - 03/21/2009 : 10:10:14

I don't think the The thing is the case any more. I think Benj changed it so that it finds the words entered within any order in a film title.

Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"

Posted - 03/21/2009 : 10:16:19

Yes, I was right.

the shining > Shining, The
married rachel > Rachel Getting Married

They don't come up in a dropdown box but they appear as search results. I guess that could confuse people as obviously there will be some films in the dropdown box when one has entered the first few letters. Benj, could the order-free thing apply to that box too?

Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"

Posted - 03/21/2009 : 10:21:48

Thanks for the change of page after entering a URL, by the way. I don't think mass adders will mind as it previously had to take one to the same page as after entering a review, which won't have been an advantage for them. The only page they might prefer is new films. So I guess a compromise might be if one were taken to the film's page if it were already on the site and the new films page if it were not.

Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 03/21/2009 10:27:48

Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"

Posted - 03/21/2009 : 10:32:18

Actually, Benj, please would a further change be possible? When one entered a URL into the search box, couldn't that step alone add the film and take one straight to its page (or wherever)? One currently has to 'search' for it and then enter it with a blank review. There doesn't really seem to be any advantage from that extra step. It's just a relic from when one could only add films by title.

benj clews
"...."

Posted - 03/21/2009 : 14:25:48

quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

Actually, Benj, please would a further change be possible? When one entered a URL into the search box, couldn't that step alone add the film and take one straight to its page (or wherever)? One currently has to 'search' for it and then enter it with a blank review. There doesn't really seem to be any advantage from that extra step. It's just a relic from when one could only add films by title.

Nice idea- will see what I can do.

Josh the cat
"ice wouldn't melt, you'd think ....."

Posted - 03/21/2009 : 14:42:00

quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

Actually, Benj, please would a further change be possible? When one entered a URL into the search box, couldn't that step alone add the film and take one straight to its page (or wherever)? One currently has to 'search' for it and then enter it with a blank review. There doesn't really seem to be any advantage from that extra step. It's just a relic from when one could only add films by title.

It does mean however that you can add and review a film at the same time, which I have done on occasion, the extra step is not a prblem for me.

I think I count as a mass adder, and it sounds like extra work to program the changes for no real reason IMHO.

Cheers

Josh the cat

Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"

Posted - 03/21/2009 : 17:08:15

It had never occurred to me that that was possible. I don't think it can have occurred to Whippersnapper either given what he has said above about wanting to be taken to the film's page in order to review it.

However, if one were taken to that page adding+reviewing would still be two steps. If one were taken to new films, there would just be one extra click for the same end.

Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 03/21/2009 17:10:01

ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 03/22/2009 : 08:20:47

I've done that a whole lot, actually - added a film using the IMDb URL while submitting a review for it at the same time.

Too bad I can't get it to work today. I'm trying to add this film http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065811/ but the site won't take it. Could this be because it is one of the "Hallmark Hall of Fame" productions, and seems like an episode?

(If so, my new Triple Crown accolade will only have three films in it - the three productions of "Once Upon a Mattress" that Carol Burnett appeared it.)