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Joe Blevins 
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 Posted - 01/19/2008 : 02:23:20
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Lately, Chicago's TV horror host Svengoolie has been playing the Universal horror flicks, and it seems that a great many of these flicks actually feature two or more of the most famous monsters: the Wolfman, Dracula, Frankenstein's Monster, etc.
My question is this: has it ever happened in a movie that someone already afflicted with lycanthropy (i.e. werewolf-itis) is bitten by a vampire? What happens then? It's established vampire lore that a vampire can turn OTHER people into vampires as well. Is the screen's most famous werewolf, Lawrence Talbot (Lon Chaney, Jr.), immune from this? It seems the Wolf Man appears in a lot of movies with Dracula? Could it happen that the Wolf Man also becomes a vampire? Poor Larry Talbot has a heck of a time as it is. Imagine if he had BOTH of the big horror movie curses.
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Downtown 
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 01/19/2008 : 03:01:59
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Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 01/19/2008 : 08:17:07
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I think there's a logical conflict between the two.
- Vampires are dead, but wake at night to feed, and sunlight kills them.
- Werewolves lead normal lives in the daytime (i.e., they're alive) but become wolves on the full moon.
So, what would happen to the werewolf if he becomes a vampire? What would his state be in the daytime? Would he be a dead human in a coffin? Would he then wake at dusk and be a vampire, but become a living dead werewolf on the full moon? Or would he remain a living human in the day (immune from the sunlight issues) and vampiricise at night, but lycanthropicise monthly on the full moon? <I'm having fun with these words.> 
I'd say the writer could do whatever they wanted.  I've certainly never heard of a vampire/werewolf cross though. |
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 01/19/2008 : 08:40:11
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Originally posted by Se�n
I've certainly never heard of a vampire/werewolf cross though.
Well, of course not! Everyone knows the vampire would perish if you show him/it the cross
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benj clews 
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Posted - 01/19/2008 : 09:41:25
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I'd say if any film has ever tried to answer this question, it'd be the Underworld series (vampires at war with werewolves). Can't remember any werewolves becoming vampires in either film, mind  |
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Salopian 
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 01/19/2008 : 17:19:52
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Originally posted by Se�n
Vampires are dead
Is that true? I thought they just slept in coffins (or elsewhere) in the day because they could only go out at night. |
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 01/19/2008 : 18:42:17
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Originally posted by Se�n
Vampires are dead
Is that true? I thought they just slept in coffins (or elsewhere) in the day because they could only go out at night.
Yes it's true. Well technically they're undead, which is a general term for any dead being that behaves as though it's alive. As corporeal undead (as opposed to spiritual, like ghosts) vampires actually share many traits of zombies: the body expires, then reanimates a short time later and spends eternity feeding on its former species. The main difference is of course that vampires maintain their intellect. But yes, you have to die before becoming a vampire. Your heart will stop and brain activity will cease, and you'll spontaneously reanimate a short time later. |
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 01/19/2008 : 20:33:18
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Originally posted by 17-0
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Yes it's true. Well technically they're undead, which is a general term for any dead being that behaves as though it's alive. As corporeal undead (as opposed to spiritual, like ghosts) vampires actually share many traits of zombies: the body expires, then reanimates a short time later and spends eternity feeding on its former species. The main difference is of course that vampires maintain their intellect. But yes, you have to die before becoming a vampire. Your heart will stop and brain activity will cease, and you'll spontaneously reanimate a short time later.
Should we find it strangely suspicious that you know these details? 
And ... if I invited you 'round for tea ... would you make some excuse involving daylight?
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Salopian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 01/20/2008 : 00:48:38
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But yes, you have to die before becoming a vampire. Your heart will stop and brain activity will cease, and you'll spontaneously reanimate a short time later.
Well, well. I never knew that before. I thought they were alive and just infected. |
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 01/20/2008 : 17:19:48
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I'm not an expert, though. I'll concede that I might even be wrong about the details. But they're definitely undead.
Zombies I know a lot more about, mostly thanks to Max Brooks' tireless research. |
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Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 01/21/2008 : 23:09:01
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by 17-0
But yes, you have to die before becoming a vampire. Your heart will stop and brain activity will cease, and you'll spontaneously reanimate a short time later.
Well, well. I never knew that before. I thought they were alive and just infected.
I'm very sure that they're dead. That's how they 'live' for centuries, and why they 'sleep' in coffins. I also recall they have no heartbeat.
During the daytime they're essentially dead bodies in coffins, which is the ideal time to stake them. 
I vaguely recall one vampire movie (I won't say which to avoid spoilers) where towards the end of the movie the whole cemetery in Transylvania 'woke up', i.e., crypts were opening everywhere, so it was clear that the dead in this cemetery were vampires. They weren't buried because they were infected. They were presumably buried because they were sporadically killed by vampires over the years (which turns them into vampires according to some schools of thought), so of course they wake at night to feed. |
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Shiv 
"What a Wonderful World"
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Posted - 03/21/2008 : 21:46:14
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Originally posted by benj clews
I'd say if any film has ever tried to answer this question, it'd be the Underworld series (vampires at war with werewolves). Can't remember any werewolves becoming vampires in either film, mind
Of course, the premise of these movies is the 'hybrid'. So the Corvin character is both werewolf and vampire - without the weaknesses of either. |
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