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benj clews 
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Posted - 11/22/2013 :  18:09:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For anyone who's curious what the story was on the other side of that radio communication, Alfonso's son has directed this interesting little short...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/gravity-spinoff-watch-side-sandra-657919
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 11/22/2013 :  21:15:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by benj clews

For anyone who's curious what the story was on the other side of that radio communication, Alfonso's son has directed this interesting little short...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/gravity-spinoff-watch-side-sandra-657919

Nice! At least this one stuck to the laws of physics. First I thought "Why wasn't the whisky frozen?", then realised that given it freezes at about -25C, the daylight implied it wasn't winter so the temperature would likely have been above -25C, so no problem there.

Anyway, I hope it gets a shorts nomination.
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randall 
"I like to watch."

Posted - 11/22/2013 :  23:31:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pardon me for protrudin', as they say back home, but Sean and I didn't quit yakking about Kubrick and CLOCKWORK ORANGE and 2001 and lots of other good stuff. I just decided to port the rest of the conversation -- which I recommend -- to another thread, this one Kubrick-centric. It's here if you want it.

We now return you to GRAVITY.

Edited by - randall on 11/22/2013 23:33:09
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randall 
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Posted - 03/05/2014 :  22:48:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Which won seven Oscars last Sunday night. The DVD contains that short about the other side of Bullock's frustrating radio conversation in the last reel.
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Sean 
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Posted - 03/06/2014 :  06:09:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was quite happy with the Oscars it won (technical stuff, mainly). I was a little surprised about Best Director, but then I imagined the director green-screening actors hanging from wires while he keeps in mind what it'll look like once the rest is added, resulting in a large chunk of the movie looking like it actually was in zero gravity, then I understood.

I was pleased it didn't get Best Picture; while I haven't seen any of the others yet (I'll see them all) I can easily imagine many of them being better than this one.

BTW I watched this again last week on a whim (to see what I thought of it knowing its flaws) and the bits that were wrong irked me even more than on first view, particularly the Clooney Gravitron (that's the supernatural force that pulled Clooney away from the ISS while not working on any other matter, i.e., Bullock and the rest of the ISS). And I can confirm that there was no rotation whatsoever of the ISS upon arrival (it was not rotating/spinning relative to the earth).

Other parts looked a bit clich�ed, in particular the last scene where she almost drowned after surviving against all odds (it reminded me of the 'last scare' in a horror movie, or the 'you think its over but it isn't quite, not just yet' standard for an action thriller). Another one was the 'panicking woman saved by cool, calm and collected man' clich�, I thought we should have grown out of that by the second decade of the 21st century, but I guess not.

Having said that, when someone else makes a space/orbit movie and wants it to look realistic, this is the one they'll copy. Hopefully next time they won't periodically abandon the laws of nature to suit the plot.

I'll be interested to hear what those who loved this movie think of it on a second viewing.
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 03/06/2014 :  12:02:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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I'll be interested to hear what those who loved this movie think of it on a second viewing.




Well, I've now watched it three times, concentrating on various categories for the voting. None of the viewings in my case was ruined by any tekkie-space anomalies. As Cuaron keeps repeating, this is a film about Ryan's recovery from emotional danger. The space thing is a metaphor. It really doesn't have to be accurate because it's not a training manual for astronaut associates. I didn't even read her being helped by a man as offensive, because he's an embodiment of her memories of instruction - she knows the answer is already in her brain. She needs to get to a space/place where she can access it - via the "cool, collected" part of her brain. She's not stupid, she's scared. Why the hell shouldn't she be? And, though she's also scared in the metaphorical space story - what she's most scared about is her ability to carry on with the rest of her life after such a trauma, her resilience. I'm sure the film might have been set underwater, or down a mine shaft, or inside a volcano - and the story would still work. So, let's say it was set down a mine ... would you still be paying attention to the gauge of cables on the elevator, or the gradation of colors in the seam? In a year of truly excellent films, Gravity may not have been the runaway Best, but it's certainly right up there. And Cuaron's several Best Director awards allude to his story-telling ability.


Edited by - BaftaBaby on 03/06/2014 12:03:38
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 03/06/2014 :  21:19:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe

I'm sure the film might have been set underwater, or down a mine shaft, or inside a volcano - and the story would still work. So, let's say it was set down a mine ... would you still be paying attention to the gauge of cables on the elevator, or the gradation of colors in the seam?
If it was underwater and she sank after dropping her weight belt, or fell into lava and suffered minor burns, or got colder down a mine as she went from 1000m to 2000m then I'd still have ripped out my feathers!
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randall 
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Posted - 03/06/2014 :  22:28:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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I was pleased it didn't get Best Picture; while I haven't seen any of the others yet (I'll see them all) I can easily imagine many of them being better than this one.



Not to stir anything up, but isn't that the classic definition of prejudice?
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Sean 
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Posted - 03/06/2014 :  22:58:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Sean


I was pleased it didn't get Best Picture; while I haven't seen any of the others yet (I'll see them all) I can easily imagine many of them being better than this one.


Not to stir anything up, but isn't that the classic definition of prejudice?

I'd call it an expectation (or a hope, actually). If Gravity was the best there is then it was not a good year for movies. Fortunately the Academy thought there was at least one better movie in 2013, and I'm hoping quite a few.
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