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benj clews 
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Posted - 07/18/2005 :  23:04:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wheelz

In the film, the Fan 4's DNA is altered by a mysterious energy cloud in space. At the time, they were wearing these special "smart" space suits that react to their body temperatures, etc... So the explanation goes something like: "Gee, since we were wearing these suits when our DNA was altered, the suits must have been altered along with us!"



So what do they wear on washing day?

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TitanPa 
"Here four more"

Posted - 07/20/2005 :  05:47:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by benj clews

quote:
Originally posted by Wheelz

In the film, the Fan 4's DNA is altered by a mysterious energy cloud in space. At the time, they were wearing these special "smart" space suits that react to their body temperatures, etc... So the explanation goes something like: "Gee, since we were wearing these suits when our DNA was altered, the suits must have been altered along with us!"



So what do they wear on washing day?




ANd did the Thing "hulk" out of his suit. Or did it turn into the orange rocky stuff??

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duh 
"catpurrs"

Posted - 07/20/2005 :  06:25:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Titanpa

ANd did the Thing "hulk" out of his suit. Or did it turn into the orange rocky stuff??





He must spend a fortune on stool softeners.

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TitanPa 
"Here four more"

Posted - 07/20/2005 :  07:05:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HAha, good one. I laughed so hard i fell out of my chair.

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Tori 
"I don't get it...."

Posted - 07/22/2005 :  02:54:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.fwfr.com/display.asp?ID=4880


There are at least two incorrect reviews here; the Ducks aren't in college, but are high school freshmen at a Prep school.

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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 07/22/2005 :  03:43:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tori

http://www.fwfr.com/display.asp?ID=4880


There are at least two incorrect reviews here; the Ducks aren't in college, but are high school freshmen at a Prep school.


This 'might' be related to different usage of the word 'college' across the Atlantic. Not totally sure about the UK, but in NZ college begins when you're about 13 and ends when you're about 18. Then you go to university. My college years were from the age of 12 to 17 anyway.

So, given that it's a US film perhaps usage should be US? But what if the reviewer is English and writing reviews for a UK based website?

Dunno, I think I'll drop out of this one.

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AC 
"Returning FWFR Old-Timer"

Posted - 07/22/2005 :  03:49:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I agree here with Sean - when I see 'college' I think 'preppy high school'. Post-graduate studies for me is only conjured by the word 'university'.

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benj clews 
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Posted - 07/22/2005 :  08:41:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sean

quote:
Originally posted by Tori

http://www.fwfr.com/display.asp?ID=4880


There are at least two incorrect reviews here; the Ducks aren't in college, but are high school freshmen at a Prep school.


This 'might' be related to different usage of the word 'college' across the Atlantic. Not totally sure about the UK, but in NZ college begins when you're about 13 and ends when you're about 18. Then you go to university. My college years were from the age of 12 to 17 anyway.

So, given that it's a US film perhaps usage should be US? But what if the reviewer is English and writing reviews for a UK based website?

Dunno, I think I'll drop out of this one.



Since clearly for some people 'college' does work, I'm letting this stay. I can't decline this any more than I can for someone writing a review of 'The Wrong Trousers' as "Pants rob bank".

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Tori 
"I don't get it...."

Posted - 07/22/2005 :  15:58:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh, I didn't realize that. Never mind!

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roger_thornhill 
"'scuse me while I disappear..."

Posted - 07/22/2005 :  21:37:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Batty.

Sellers doesn't ride the bomb. That part is played by Slim Pickens, though Sellers was originally cast in that role as well.

Cheers, GK

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benj clews 
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Posted - 07/23/2005 :  02:46:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by george_kaplan

Batty.

Sellers doesn't ride the bomb. That part is played by Slim Pickens, though Sellers was originally cast in that role as well.

Cheers, GK



Duly declined.

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Animal Mutha 
"Who would've thunk it?"

Posted - 07/23/2005 :  02:50:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SWIII - 'Twin son's for Tattooine' - sbudgie. Am I missing something, or is this refering to both the twins being boys?

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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 07/23/2005 :  04:11:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Animal Mutha

SWIII - 'Twin son's for Tattooine' - sbudgie. Am I missing something, or is this refering to both the twins being boys?


Twin son is for Tattooine. I.e., destined for Tattooine.

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Rovark 
"Luck-pushing, rule-bending, chance-taking reviewer"

Posted - 07/24/2005 :  20:22:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Downtown

quote:
Originally posted by Rovark


Fort Apache.

Someone's presumably been watching IMBD rather than the film.
2 reviews out of the 6 refer to it being about Custer's Last Stand

It isn't

The story of Fonda's charactor and his path to self destruction for both himself and the men under his command at the hands of the Apache is presumably an allegory for Custer's own demise.
But it's allegorical, that's as far as it goes, with Thursday's journey mirroring Custer's. It may not even be that, it could just be a cracking good story of how one mans hubris leads to disaster.

Unless John Ford himself specifically said he was 'doing a Custer' when he made the film and I've missed the point completely. I'm prepared to stand corrected




Actually, the two reviews that mention Custer - including mine - both make reference to the fact that the film is a work of fiction based on Custer's "last stand." Mine says that quite literally, while the other review makes a more subtle reference to it. But both reviews are quite correct.




Fight, fight, fight, fight
Looks like we got a major disagreement coming up here. Much as I hate to go all Salopian on you, there's a big difference between re-imagining an historical event and making an allegorical reference to it.
They Died With Their Boots On, Seventh Cavalry, Custer Of The West, Little Big Man. They all take the very real figure of Custer and create a fiction around the historical 'facts' as we know them, but using all the factual names and details.
Fort Apache doesn't. It creates new totally fictional charactors and plonks them amongst the Apache of Cochise. If anything it's a fictionalised account of Cochise's story, with Fonda's Thursday bearing more resemblence to Bascom who practically started the Apache wars.
In terms of a cavalry officer leading his men to self destruction, Fetterman's probably a better candidate than Custer as a historical template.
The film isn't 'Custer's last stand redux'
or 'Ford fictionalises custer's conclusion'
Although the first review would fine for any of the above films so is probably generic as well as wrong.
Over to you Benj
ps I'm prepared to apologise to our American cousins if I've remembered any of the above incorrectly, teaching Grandma to suck eggs and all



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tortoise 
"Still reviewing, but slowly."

Posted - 07/24/2005 :  20:31:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Animal Mutha

SWIII - 'Twin son's for Tattooine' - sbudgie. Am I missing something, or is this refering to both the twins being boys?





I concede it could be (mis)understood that way. But I would maintain that since Luke is both a male offspring and one half of a pair of twins, referring to him as a "twin son" is not inaccurate.

I am not a lawyer, but I used to think I was going to be one

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